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		<title>Comment on The Neccessity of Conviction by Emo Samurai</title>
		<link>http://romans120.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/the-neccessity-of-conviction/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Emo Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;In our inclusivistic culture it has become offensive to hold to convictions.

Therefore, God exists. :duhhrrrr:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;In our inclusivistic culture it has become offensive to hold to convictions.</p>
<p>Therefore, God exists. :duhhrrrr:</p>
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		<title>Comment on Atheism: Introdction to &#8220;Demon-Haunted World&#8221; by Dave</title>
		<link>http://romans120.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/atheism-introdction-to-demon-haunted-night/#comment-16</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As any atheist will tell you, atheism is defined as having NO beliefs regarding the existence of deities. 

Thus, when you say &quot;In order to be accepted into the ranks of atheism all one must do is believe that God ... does not exist&quot;, you are simply arguing against your own strawman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As any atheist will tell you, atheism is defined as having NO beliefs regarding the existence of deities. </p>
<p>Thus, when you say &#8220;In order to be accepted into the ranks of atheism all one must do is believe that God &#8230; does not exist&#8221;, you are simply arguing against your own strawman.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Atheism: Introdction to &#8220;Demon-Haunted World&#8221; by hkyson</title>
		<link>http://romans120.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/atheism-introdction-to-demon-haunted-night/#comment-15</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science and Atheism

Science is different from religion. It does not pretend that it knows everything. There are even now deep questions about the origins of the universe that we don&#039;t have answers to now though it is possible we may be able to answer some of them in the future. 

But the inability of science to provide answers to these questions does not prove that religious faith, tradition, or an ancient holy text has the ability to answer them. Science cannot prove that God does not exist, but this in no way establishes that God exists. There are millions of things whose lack of existence cannot be established. 

The philosopher Bertrand Russel had an analogy. Imagine that there is a teapot in orbit around the sun. It is impossible to prove that the teapot does not exist because it is too small to be detected by our telescopes. Nobody but a crazy person would say &quot;Well, I&#039;m prepared to believe in the teapot because I cannot establish that it doesn&#039;t exist.&quot; This means that maybe we have to be technically agnostics, but really we are all atheists about teapots with orbits around the sun. 

But now let us suppose that everybody in our society including our teachers and the sages of our tribes all had faith in a teapot that orbits the sun. Let us also suppose that stories of the teapot have come down to us for many generations as one of the traditions of our own society and there are ancient holy texts about the teapot. In this case people would say that a person who did not believe in the teapot is eccentric or mad. 

There are infinite numbers of things like celestial teapots whose lack of existence we are unable to establish. There are fairies, for example, and there are unicorns and goblins. We cannot prove that any of these creatures of the imagination do not exist in reality. But we don&#039;t believe they exist, just as we don&#039;t believe that the gods of the Scandinavians, for example, have any true existence. 

We are all atheists about almost all of the gods created by societies in the past. Some of us, however, take the ultimate step of believing that the god of the Jews and the Christians, like the gods of the Greeks and the Egyptians, also do not exist.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science and Atheism</p>
<p>Science is different from religion. It does not pretend that it knows everything. There are even now deep questions about the origins of the universe that we don&#8217;t have answers to now though it is possible we may be able to answer some of them in the future. </p>
<p>But the inability of science to provide answers to these questions does not prove that religious faith, tradition, or an ancient holy text has the ability to answer them. Science cannot prove that God does not exist, but this in no way establishes that God exists. There are millions of things whose lack of existence cannot be established. </p>
<p>The philosopher Bertrand Russel had an analogy. Imagine that there is a teapot in orbit around the sun. It is impossible to prove that the teapot does not exist because it is too small to be detected by our telescopes. Nobody but a crazy person would say &#8220;Well, I&#8217;m prepared to believe in the teapot because I cannot establish that it doesn&#8217;t exist.&#8221; This means that maybe we have to be technically agnostics, but really we are all atheists about teapots with orbits around the sun. </p>
<p>But now let us suppose that everybody in our society including our teachers and the sages of our tribes all had faith in a teapot that orbits the sun. Let us also suppose that stories of the teapot have come down to us for many generations as one of the traditions of our own society and there are ancient holy texts about the teapot. In this case people would say that a person who did not believe in the teapot is eccentric or mad. </p>
<p>There are infinite numbers of things like celestial teapots whose lack of existence we are unable to establish. There are fairies, for example, and there are unicorns and goblins. We cannot prove that any of these creatures of the imagination do not exist in reality. But we don&#8217;t believe they exist, just as we don&#8217;t believe that the gods of the Scandinavians, for example, have any true existence. </p>
<p>We are all atheists about almost all of the gods created by societies in the past. Some of us, however, take the ultimate step of believing that the god of the Jews and the Christians, like the gods of the Greeks and the Egyptians, also do not exist.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Neccessity of Conviction by OrdinaryClay</title>
		<link>http://romans120.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/the-neccessity-of-conviction/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>OrdinaryClay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good post. Well said. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good post. Well said. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Neccessity of Conviction by thithbor</title>
		<link>http://romans120.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/the-neccessity-of-conviction/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>thithbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks !</description>
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		<title>Comment on Change in Plans this Summer by Newman</title>
		<link>http://romans120.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/change-in-plans-this-summer/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kairos&quot;</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Neccessity of Conviction by Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, I have to agree, I am one of an open mind, not necessarily agree with certain things but I am very open minded to discussing them, and many times it is seen as not been fully committed or lack of conviction, it is an sword of two edges of sort..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, I have to agree, I am one of an open mind, not necessarily agree with certain things but I am very open minded to discussing them, and many times it is seen as not been fully committed or lack of conviction, it is an sword of two edges of sort..</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Neccessity of Conviction by Raskolnikovatheistforums</title>
		<link>http://romans120.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/the-neccessity-of-conviction/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Raskolnikovatheistforums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t see how presenting yourself to have an open mind means you have to present yourself to be uncertain of your beliefs. Though, if you come into a conversation with absolute certainty (which is, really, just a red herring) of your beliefs then I&#039;d agree, you&#039;re not open minded because there would be no way, at all, no matter what, to sway you. There&#039;s absolutely nothing wrong with uncertainty. That&#039;s how human knowledge is advanced and that is how science progresses. Also, when you said:

&quot;The only way to reach the lost is for them to see us being changed by that conviction.&quot;

IMO, evidence for your conviction works much better than the changes to yourself that your conviction causes =P Though, I will admit, it could probably work for children and the simple-minded. (no offense)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t see how presenting yourself to have an open mind means you have to present yourself to be uncertain of your beliefs. Though, if you come into a conversation with absolute certainty (which is, really, just a red herring) of your beliefs then I&#8217;d agree, you&#8217;re not open minded because there would be no way, at all, no matter what, to sway you. There&#8217;s absolutely nothing wrong with uncertainty. That&#8217;s how human knowledge is advanced and that is how science progresses. Also, when you said:</p>
<p>&#8220;The only way to reach the lost is for them to see us being changed by that conviction.&#8221;</p>
<p>IMO, evidence for your conviction works much better than the changes to yourself that your conviction causes =P Though, I will admit, it could probably work for children and the simple-minded. (no offense)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Change in Plans this Summer by romans120</title>
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		<dc:creator>romans120</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there Rasko. I think my latest blog kinda sums up where I have been, I have been a little overwhelmed lately. Don&#039;t worry I don&#039;t plan on stopping my participation on the AF. I even posted on the forums a couple days ago. As far as my comment don&#039;t take that to mean I gave up on learning. It just means I will never learn all there is to be learned and depend on God rather then myself to be a minister of truth to others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there Rasko. I think my latest blog kinda sums up where I have been, I have been a little overwhelmed lately. Don&#8217;t worry I don&#8217;t plan on stopping my participation on the AF. I even posted on the forums a couple days ago. As far as my comment don&#8217;t take that to mean I gave up on learning. It just means I will never learn all there is to be learned and depend on God rather then myself to be a minister of truth to others.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Change in Plans this Summer by Raskolnikovatheistforums</title>
		<link>http://romans120.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/change-in-plans-this-summer/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Raskolnikovatheistforums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where have you been romans? Haven&#039;t seen you around the AF. We miss ya. Also, about your comment: &quot;(I’m just as dumb as I always have been and will be)&quot; That&#039;s sad to hear Romans. What a defeatist comment to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where have you been romans? Haven&#8217;t seen you around the AF. We miss ya. Also, about your comment: &#8220;(I’m just as dumb as I always have been and will be)&#8221; That&#8217;s sad to hear Romans. What a defeatist comment to make.</p>
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